tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post5960366406936095681..comments2024-03-17T02:20:03.772-05:00Comments on Riding With The Top Down: Seeing is believing. Or NOT.Kathleen Eaglehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13561028604927993773noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-620772882510822132009-04-22T07:57:00.000-05:002009-04-22T07:57:00.000-05:00Great idea, ForestJane! Putting a photo of what's...Great idea, ForestJane! Putting a photo of what's important to us on the jacket!<br /><br />It's such a refreshing idea. . . publishers would never go for it. but hey, if I'm ever asked for a book jacket photo again-- I'll try that!<br /><br />:)Betina Krahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11379124690406269848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-68087303955408792282009-04-21T20:06:00.000-05:002009-04-21T20:06:00.000-05:00Would you ever consider NOT putting your photo on ...Would you ever consider NOT putting your photo on the book?<br /><br />I read a lot - most of it large print, only because 'my' library has all the LP for the system. I can usually find a LP copy of a book available long before I can get a 7-day popular copy. And most of the LP books don't put the pic of the author on the back cover or inner flap. Honestly, I don't miss it. It's not vital for me to know what someone looks like, before I enjoy the story they have to tell.<br /><br />I think it'd be more fun if authors put a photo of something important to them on the book. It'd be more personal:<br /><br />"This is my dog, he keeps me sane."<br />"Here's my favorite quilt from my grandmother, I wrap up in it to write."<br />"This is the original can of tuna that inspired me to write Tuna Can Cowboy."<br /><br />And so forth. :DForestJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05536396154296555583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-91152400582748807142009-04-21T17:41:00.000-05:002009-04-21T17:41:00.000-05:00Hello. . . we said HELLO to Andy.
sheesh!Hello. . . we said HELLO to Andy.<br /><br />sheesh!Betina Krahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11379124690406269848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-86231596488321464312009-04-21T17:39:00.000-05:002009-04-21T17:39:00.000-05:00Hey, guys! I'm sorry, I'm so late coming back to ...Hey, guys! I'm sorry, I'm so late coming back to the blog-- I was away from home most of the day. I managed to pop in to read, but didn't have time to respond! And what great comments-- they all deserve the personal response I probably don't have the space or energy to give them.<br /><br />But Venus Vaughn, you started us off with a bang-- I love your advice and I'm gonna take it! Let some of the warts sho-- okay not the warts.. . but the wrinkles. . . especially the ones that come from laughing and smiling. I think they warm a face up and make a person look "lived in" and comfortable with herself.<br /><br />Candace-- how good to see you here!<br /><br />Thanks everybody for convincing me I don't need to spend money on another set of photos. . . yet! I'm stickin' with this one for a while longer. And did you not just LOVE that pic of Owen Wilson? I really adore the guy, but that photo was just too hysterical to pass up!<br /><br />And a hearty AMEN to everybody who worries that we're setting false expectations that will harm out daughters-- and sons!<br /><br />Personally, I love taking photos and surround myself with pics of my family whenever I can. Whether they're flattering or not. Because-- whoever said the energy and vitality are missing in photos is right. Beauty --like love--is best observed in action. And yes you can quote me on that!<br /><br />OOOoooo as for celebrities, I saw Andy Williams in an airport one afternoon and my mother (fearless wonder) dragged me over to say hell. He was tiny! And his face was purply red and coarse-- he looked half lit. He had that "serious drinker's face."<br /><br />I was disappointed. but not nearly as much as if I'd spotted a Beetle or Paul Newman and had the same reaction!Betina Krahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11379124690406269848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-6203737200909930362009-04-21T17:24:00.000-05:002009-04-21T17:24:00.000-05:00I so hate having my picture taken that I make them...I so hate having my picture taken that I make them use the same one at school year after year until I take another decent one, LOL. And the principal had the guy take a *poster size* pic of all the teachers to hang next to their doors. Mine is rolled up and stuffed in back of a cupboard. I *hate* having my picture taken!<br /><br />And my new driver's license picture...sooooooo bad! She took it twice and one was worse than the other!KylieBranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02521116390801346909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-15567602867194137872009-04-21T17:11:00.000-05:002009-04-21T17:11:00.000-05:00I think we really want the fantasy. Most stars are...I think we really want the fantasy. Most stars are nowhere as gorgeous as they are made out to be. I think the problem comes when it's young people who believe and think they could never measure up.catsladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06375770995988927860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-66558938333066751352009-04-21T16:08:00.000-05:002009-04-21T16:08:00.000-05:00Betina: Love that photo of you.
Like Lois's daug...Betina: Love that photo of you.<br /><br />Like Lois's daughter, I really dislike looking at myself in pictures. I hate sitting for them too. The casual ones on my website were taken by a friend, a semi-pro and he had to take a gazillion to find a couple where I wasn't stiff as a corpse.<br /><br />It makes me mad that they doctored Katie C. I'm okay with the smoothing out of lines and such, but they made her shoulders look so skinny and her neck too thin.Christie Ridgwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17036552271272402052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-40988658423404130692009-04-21T15:31:00.000-05:002009-04-21T15:31:00.000-05:00We had some beautiful black and white portraits ta...We had some beautiful black and white portraits taken of our daughter instead of the traditional senior pictures. She was anti-traditional HS stuff, but we all treasure these pictures. As I remember, the photographer was a friend of a local (RWA) chapter member who offered to do promo pix. I wanted pictures of Elizabeth instead because the photographer did such artistic work. Elizabth insisted on doing her own makeup. The results are stunning.<br /><br />I love taking pictures of the granddaughters. They're such naturals at that age.Kathleen Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13561028604927993773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-87392094025794631592009-04-21T13:07:00.000-05:002009-04-21T13:07:00.000-05:00Some people photograph well (my eldest) and some o...Some people photograph well (my eldest) and some of us don't photograph well (me!). <br /><br />I read about a study which stated that other people see us as more attractive than we see ourselves. The reason is pictures and mirrors don't capture what really makes us attractive, our energy and personality. <br />Spent extra money on my second daughter's Senior photographs. They turned out beautiful and she will always these pictures to remind her how beautiful she really is. There was some touch up but she looked like herself. However, the magazine cover trend to make people perfect by changing their age, facial features and age is bad. It creates an unrealistic expectation for beauty.fliphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16778574048526674171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-90445773319183450852009-04-21T13:02:00.000-05:002009-04-21T13:02:00.000-05:00I really need to learn to Photoshop! I'd look gre...I really need to learn to Photoshop! I'd look great if I could just grow into my weight. 'Course I'd have to be 6'2" to grow into my weight.<br /><br />I do agree with minor touch-ups - evening out skin tone, taking away a pimple or two, but completely altering an appearance isn't so good.GunDivahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02965363044411500380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-16083725723563967132009-04-21T12:50:00.000-05:002009-04-21T12:50:00.000-05:00Oh, the horrors of photos!
We idealize ourselves ...Oh, the horrors of photos!<br /><br />We idealize ourselves until we can't anymore. For most of us that's right after we see the photograph.<br /><br />I love Photoshop because I love playing with graphics. i did a Christmas card for a client and gave him demabrasion, liposuction, a little botox and then I made his soon-to-be daughter-in-laws incredibly big boobs (that were pointing off the family Christmas card) deflate to something reasonable that didn't draw the eye.<br /><br />I love that I can do this. I wish I could do more.<br /><br />But I also wish folks would stop over-photoshopping celebrities. Unattainable beauty is not good for society. Young girls have no idea that they can't look like what they see in the magazines.<br /><br />I'm not happy about that.Debra Dixonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03992776098849029414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-52067164184638497552009-04-21T11:19:00.000-05:002009-04-21T11:19:00.000-05:00Betina, you proved my point. This is exactly what ...Betina, you proved my point. This is exactly what I was getting at in my comment on yesterday's post. Exactly! Only you said it so much better than I did.<br /><br />Not only are we compared to women who are naturally beautiful, we are compared to un-naturally beautiful PhotoShopped versions of those same women. And the natural beauties are also compared to the un-naturally beautiful versions of themselves. That must be a very strange experience.<br /><br />That said... I've had a couple of Glamour Shots taken in the past. Gorgeous pictures, but so not me. My latest--and, by far, most favorite--picture was recently taken by a friend who went back to school to become a professional photographer. I was one of the images in his final project. It's got really good lighting and camera angles, and I think he used a filtered lense -- but no Photoshop. It looks like me. No one would look at it and say incredulously "That's you?!" like they did with my Glamour Shots.Candacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-26835797638533978392009-04-21T10:28:00.000-05:002009-04-21T10:28:00.000-05:00Betina, I like your current photo too. And I agre...Betina, I like your current photo too. And I agree with what most everyone has said about touch ups with moderation.<br /><br />My experience with the photographer who took my last pub photos turned out okay, even though I was dreading it. They did the big screen thing with my daughter's hs pics, but for me, she just reviewed the pics on her computer. Just a couple minor touchups, mostly just to even out skin tone - like under my eyes, if I remember and remove 1 line. Pretty painless.<br /><br />Can NOT believe what they did with Faith Hill's pic. I'd be ticked if I were here.<br /><br />Three cheers for Jamie Lee Curtis for having her untouched pic in MORE magazine!!!Helen Brennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08680081195181747377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-34743755448011144692009-04-21T09:57:00.000-05:002009-04-21T09:57:00.000-05:00Every time I have a photo taken I swear it will be...Every time I have a photo taken I swear it will be the last one. And yes, I've had them touched up a bit but I'm loving Venus Vaughn's advice. Next one will be a candid shot. If there ever IS a next one.:o)<br /><br />And BTW, Betina - you are gorgeous with or without photo shop.Cindy Gerardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13311224531297908704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-12361138159055283092009-04-21T09:55:00.000-05:002009-04-21T09:55:00.000-05:00Betina, I love your photo. That's you. The expre...Betina, I love your photo. That's you. The expression is so Betina--friendly, upbeat, and a tiny a little bit mischievous. You've always photographed well, so don't sweat it. I'd use this photo forever.<br /><br />I hate having my picture taken. Hate. And it always shows. I did the glam shot thing, and I don't know who that woman was. Whose hair did she have? uh-uh, not mine.<br /><br />So I'm just keeping my photos from how ever many years past. Not the glam--the blazer and turtleneck. At least I recognize that woman.<br /><br />Those celeb shots are high-larious!Kathleen Eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13561028604927993773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-24055118684900956892009-04-21T09:47:00.000-05:002009-04-21T09:47:00.000-05:00And that is why I never have my picture taken. I'...And that is why I never have my picture taken. I'm camera-phobic, and it is because I always look like a 'before' picture. ;-) Seriously, I need a new head shot. It's been more than a decade since my last one, and that one is getting a little embarassing because it is Glamour Shots, and I dont' look like that anymore, and I would scare the crap out of Kylie.<br />I'm just waiting for a good hair day to do it. I've been waiting for years.Michele Haufhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12255612473985897103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-66259111508961396972009-04-21T09:46:00.000-05:002009-04-21T09:46:00.000-05:00I followed the link to the Faith Hill article and ...I followed the link to the Faith Hill article and got lost there for a long time. Very interesting. I am trying to decide whether to go on a rant about how all this phototouching contributes to the negative self-image women have about themselves or just let it go. <br /><br />I will say that I have walked right past authors at RWA conferences because the woman in person looked nothing like the woman in the photographs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-4722985377846977332009-04-21T08:48:00.000-05:002009-04-21T08:48:00.000-05:00Love the pic of the celebrities! I should show my...Love the pic of the celebrities! I should show my hubby that one of Angelina Jolie. He likes her (gag).<br /><br />It's great when an author photo actually looks like the author, but there's nothing wrong with a bit of retouching. It's like makeup. Everyone needs it.Jill Sorensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13780655429244358019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-21208488428532771662009-04-21T06:52:00.001-05:002009-04-21T06:52:00.001-05:00Betina, you are always amusing and enlightening.
...Betina, you are always amusing and enlightening.<br /><br />And not alone in this. My daughter, 19, tall, svelte, gorgeous (in my opinion) won't look at photos of herself. If she needs some taken I have to pick them out. Which, I think, tells us that we are far too critical of ourselves. On the other hand, ageism is alive and well (and not aging) so I have no idea how far far to go to look good.lois greimanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05758677401591191607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-80496565567546057112009-04-21T06:52:00.000-05:002009-04-21T06:52:00.000-05:00Betina, you are always amusing and enlightening.
...Betina, you are always amusing and enlightening.<br /><br />And not alone in this. My daughter, 19, tall, svelte, gorgeous (in my opinion) won't look at photos of herself. If she needs some taken I have to pick them out. Which, I think, tells us that we are far too critical of ourselves. On the other hand, ageism is alive and well (and not aging) so I have no idea how far far to go to look good.lois greimanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05758677401591191607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-7788532813454075522009-04-21T06:41:00.000-05:002009-04-21T06:41:00.000-05:00I once saw an author whom I'd only seen in glamor ...I once saw an author whom I'd only seen in glamor shots for the first time in real life and rocked back. "Whoa!" I found myself thinking. "Musta been a bad accident!" LOL!<br /><br />That said, well of course I have them smooth the lines in my photos. Looking at the percentage of people who are going to see the photo and not me in real life, I'm ok with that. <br /><br />Of course I'd also be ok with a face lift if I could afford it....<br /><br />And I like Katie Couric with or without touch ups. My beef is with the bias that is still so pervasive in the public world that it's only the 'women' who have to be touched up and kept youthful looking while the men are allowed to age. Grrr!KylieBranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02521116390801346909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27662400.post-91680491323903008082009-04-21T04:28:00.000-05:002009-04-21T04:28:00.000-05:00Let your real self be seen - cautiously.
I've ...Let your real self be seen - cautiously. <br /> <br />I've been known to photoshop, you can't have a MySpace account without it, it seems. But only the temporary flaws. Just the pimples, really. Once I changed the color of my shirt, but that's about it. <br /> <br />For authors, there's nothing less appealing than a Glamor Shot. I don't care what the publicists say (which is why I'm not one), the consumer knows that a glamor shot of an author is the closest to plastic you will ever come.<br /> <br />I like to see a real smile, in a real location, with real eye contact. Find a photographer you trust, get out of the house into (modest) sunshine and let him or her compliment the heck out of you until you're relaxed enough to let your insides show. That will be a good picture. It will be one readers respond to.<br /> <br />We forgive flaws. We distrust fake.Venus Vaughnhttp://venusvaughn.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com